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Who Won the Brown-Warren Debate?

Incumbent Scott Brown and challenger Elizabeth Warren squared off in their first debate Thursday night.

 

Republican Sen. Scott Brown faced off against Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren Thursday night in a debate televised by WBZ-TV. The Thursday debate was the first of four planned tilts between the candidates, and it saw disagreement between the two on just about every topic.

Polls have seesawed over the last week, with Brown and Warren swapping small leads, as they have throughout the campaign. The debates may provide one or the other an opportunity to change voter minds and swing the election his or her way.

Central to Thursday's debate was the focus on taxes, jobs and the economy.

"He has said he will defend the top 2 percent and the top 3 percent...and will hold the other 98% of families hostage," Warren said, referencing Brown's position against extending the Bush-era tax cuts unless it also contained cuts for the country's top earners. 

Brown countered by noting that Warren's policies would raise taxes, on everyone, in fact, it's the "first thing she looks to do," he said. 

"And the criticism is that I don't want to raise taxes," he said. "Guilty as charged. I'm not going to raise taxes. I'm going to protect taxpayers' pocketbooks and wallets."

Who do you think won the debate? Did the back-and-forth change your mind about the upcoming election? Did the candidates answer the questions you had? Tell us your thoughts in the comments below.

Related Topics: Brown-Warren debate, Elizabeth Warren, and Scott Brown

John Toto

11:11 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

Senator Brown has proven himself as bipartisan. Professor Warren will not work with anyone except those who agree with her leftist ideology.
Senator Brown clearly won this debate. The more voters see and and hear Warren the more they are going to vote for Scott Brown! More debates!

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Patriot

11:58 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Mr. Toto, you’re correct. Granny Warren will vote 100% lockstep with her leftist ideologues! She was off-topic all evening as she meandered about the importance of re-electing the Omessiah, Democratic Party maintaining control of the Senate, and extremist environmental issues.

Same old Blah, Blah, Blah we’ve heard before.

Don’t believe me, check out the sequel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw

Folks, it’s time to MOVE ON!

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gneissghai

12:35 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

After the debate I was still left undecided regarding the candidates, I would like to see more debates as well. "Patriot" it is fine to point of whether or not a candidate was on topic or not but, you'll make a better political statement leaving out the "Omessiah" junk. I am a very firm believer in respecting the Office of the President, no matter what party currently resides in it. Political discourse should always be respectful whether talking about President Obama, Mr. Romney, or even President Bush.

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Cat

2:26 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Scott Brown will help bring Republican Tea Party ideology into power. Truly scary. They want to gut education (so only the rich can afford a good one), gut health care (so their insurance company lobbyists will reward them), gut the environment (so their oil company buddies will give them shares). They will destroy Mass. and the US.

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R Weeden

9:23 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

I agree with Toto- we need an independent representative in the Senate who actually reads the legislation and votes after some thought. Warren has said many times she will always vote the party line without hesitation. I hope she doesn't teach her students at Harvard to not think about the issues!

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Grampy

7:55 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

The Congress's inability to get anything done is one of the biggest issues affecting this country right now. I don't believe Mr. Brown is as independent as he claims to be - on issues on which the Republicans had taken what was considered an obstructionist position, he voted the Republican line 75% of the time (see http://middlebororeview.blogspot.com/2012/08/senator-browns-obstructionist-record.html), and 93% before EW entered the race.

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MaryMac

10:28 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Scott Brown is open-minded and cooperative. That Warren markets herself as someone who fights for people that "play by the rules" is laughable. Between checking the ethnicity box, practicing law in MA w/o a license, and representing big corporations as a lawyer, she lacks self-awareness. Really, the only one she fights for is herself. Though I do not agree with Scott Brown on everything, I do believe his track record represents how he positions himself - as an independent thinker. I can accept that even though I don't like every vote he makes. Warren lacks experience and just spews the class-warfare lingo sure to rouse those that do not think critically about their future.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

11:52 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

Professor Warren is better suited for the casino business than politics...and she comes from the correct ethnic heritage.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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N Wiks

12:55 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Reverend Pimperton which church do you come from?

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Susan Jancourtz

10:56 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

"Reverend"??? What kind of reverend says such things? This man posts his hateful comments on Patch pages all over the state. Get a job, sir (or madam), or do some volunteer work, anything to get out of the house and do something more useful than clogging up the blogosphere with your fact-free opinions.

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Iron Mike

11:08 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Ah Mz Jancourtz, you MUST be a Progressive Democrat - aka a Socialist like Pocohauntis Warren.

OK, I'm just guessing - but you are TELLING OTHERS HOW TO LEAD THEIR LIVES! Are you not?

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Helen Sheth

3:01 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Your very red neck is showing. Apparently you find it hard to talk in specific terms about the Brown stand on issues versus warren's stand on issues.

I could be cute and dismiss Brown's aptitude for the job of US Senator from MA by asking, "What's the color of horse shit?" Answer: Brown, Brown, Brown! And where does the horse shit? All over town! "

Brown can't remember some of his votes that prevented firemen, police. and other municipal workers being rehired. And that's no shit!

John Leonhard

12:03 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Mr. Toto,
You're wrong. Mr. Brown danced around straight questions and was clearly on the defensive almost the entire time. You, perhaps, need a less biased perspective.

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D.Kel

1:11 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Warren won. Brown constantly made generalized statements like, " I have fought for women since I was 6." oh please! But when asked about it vote on Equal Pay, he danced. He is only b-partisan when his vote does not matter. When we need him to really cast a vote that counts, he is always on the side of wall street. He made that clear tonight with his a avoidance of voting record and broad based comments trying to con women into believing in him. He came across like an empty vessel.

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Jesse

7:05 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Defend your paper candidate til the end. She is just as bad as the one from Pennsylvania Avenue and can't preach like Omessiah.

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Joe

9:26 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

I thought Brown got stronger as the debate progressed. For those of us who find it frightening that there are three times as many registered democrats as republicans in this state and would like some representation in our congressional delegation for a change, Brown is a great candidate. He's moderate on social issues and conservative on fiscal issues, a value that is in short supply in MA.

Tom Sheff

1:13 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

In my experience, these debates don't win or lose elections. The only debate that won or lost an election, that I know of, was the Nixon-Kennedy debates. The point of these debates is to apease the base and continue with your message (which they both seemed to do). Unfortunately, answering the questions is not the main goal for the participants.

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Marie

7:44 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

D.Kel you hit it on the head---Brown danced around the issues. Reverend are you a Christian with that statement? Thought Brown showed some of his true colors--- found him sarcastic-- antagonistic--- and bordered on bullying. Senator you took a pay hike when you went to Washington--- she is taking a pay cut--- Who does that show really wants to represent the people of MA and not their own financial interests!!!

John DiMascio

5:02 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Tom, actually Reagan won because of the one debate against Carter. Remember he was trailing badly to Carter. The Reagan/ Mondale debate was also defining.
And the Brown/ Coakley debate also gave Brown tremendous momentum.

In this debate Brown reminded people of why we voted for him in 2010. He landed several body blows to Warren that she was not able to respond to.
Among them was about the cost of tuition. Here she is talking about how expensive it is to go to college and she makes $350,000 to teach one course. That's like the designated hitter that hit 250, with 20 hr and got paid $25 million, complaining about the high price of tickets for fans!!!!!!

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dan

5:46 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sen. Scott Brown won the debate over the Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren. He reminded the folks that Warren would fall in step with here Democratic fellow legislators who vote with the Democratic Party 95% while he votes 50/50.

In addition, he exposed her and her campaign adds that focus on the high cost of education while she teaches one class at Harvard for over three hundred thousand dollars a year. Showing now-profit collages waist their students’ tuition along with government dollars that they receive by mismanaging the money with massive salaries such as her and her husband.

Furthermore, Warren says she fought the banks for the little guy. Why is it, the buyer or the refinancer of a home still pay the cost for lawyers, at the montage closing, while the lawyer represent the bank not the consumer? Keep Senator Brown in the people’s seat.

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John DiMascio

5:57 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sonny, from what I've heard she doesn't even teach the course, she's on the card and has an adjunct do the work. So it's more like a "No Show" job given to those with "the right connections."
Every time we raise grants or provide more student loans, colleges raise their prices. So the kids taking these loans, wind up having to borrow more and have more debt when they get out.
She is part of the problem. She gets paid to do nothing. She increases the overhead and brings no value to the students education.

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Jesse

7:09 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sonny sonny sonny...Lyin' Lizzie has done nothing but be appointed to head an Obama BS organization. Buying foreclosed homes, helping huge insurance companies screw people over and using a made up minority class to get ahead helps people how?

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Helen Sheth

3:52 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Fact is that the students in Professor Warren's courses rated her consistently very highly for her presentation of course material and also for her knowledge of the subject matter. You redneck guys just can't take women who can stand their ground on a factual basis versus an emotional basis. You rate women by how they appeal to you sexually as opposed to what they know. UPenn and Harvard would not have hired Warren if she didn't know her subject matter and no US President would entrust some neophyte with a newly created Consumer Affairs position. So Warren maybe could alter her non-verbal communication so she doesn't offput a certain segment of the electorate. Scott Brown is not perfect either. He is less than candid in discussing his voting record when he went against the interests of municipal workers whose jobs were cut due to losses in revenue due to a reduction in value of assed real estate and reimbursement cuts from state funds due to lower income tax revenue. While his office did respond to some of my emails on certain issues, they were non-resposive on the politically touchy ones.

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Anonymous

4:28 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Well, maybe Brown did not support municipal workers, but he did support private sector workers like me who pay taxes and provide for those municipal workers. He can't stand for everyone and make everyone happy. Otherwise he would be another liar politician. But he is not.

John DiMascio

6:04 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Actually I haven't listened to Rush or Howie much in years, but remain a fan.
And WOW Sonny I'm impressed you finally said some thing that made sense.

"If a buyer doesn't hire a lawyer to represent him at closing the buyer is incredibly stupid and deserves to get screwed."

So it is true even a blind squirrel will find his own nuts on occasion. ;>)

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Dadima Sheth

2:13 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012

I have a topic that I would like the next debate moderator to ask both Brown and Warren to comment on. I the following plan would have Congress lead by example in cutting waste in Congress in Federal Government.
I would like to ask both Senator Scott and Professor Warren to call upon the House and Senate leadership to lead in the belt tightening necessary to set our Federal Budget on the path towards fiscally responsible spending. Specifically, I would suggest a 10 to 15% across the board salary cut for Senators and Representatives. Moreover, there ought to be a 25% cut in their allowable expenses. Thirdly, I'd suggest scrapping Congress's benefit package to reflect that of the private sector. Why should they have the Cadallac of a health care plans while discussing slashing Medicare and Medicaid budgets so the average citizen's plan resembles a Kia. Finally, Congress actually votes themselves raises despite their dismal performance. If Congressmen knew that their probable pay increase was tied to a performance appraisal ,by say, the governors of the 50 United states, then this might help to reduce gridlock. In the private sector, employees are subject to 360 degree feedback -AKA you have to know how to work with other people to move up the corporate ladder. Just the opposite of what Congress has been doing. Like Paul Ryan, I haven't crunched the numbers on this but will ask my reps to do so.

Frank Kautz

6:49 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

So, we say we want bi-partisanship, and when we actually get someone who is bi-partisan, we cheer when one of the most partisan candidates we have ever seen attacks the bi-partisan senator for all his votes she doesn't agree with. How about all the votes she does agree with? Warren knew she was losing this race when her adds stopped attacking Brown the man, but the "evil" generic Republicans. The question, Massachusetts, is what do we really want, a typical Democrat senator who will vote in lock step with what her party tells her to do time and time again, or a true independent who will vote the way he believes to be best for the country. Note, I didn't say best for Massachusetts, but best for the country as a whole, something that a true statesmen does, not a typical party hack.

Brown won the debate. Not hands down, but he did a lot better than Warren did when it came to answering hard questions, even when he danced around them. She still falls back on "this is what my family told me" when anyone with any real political savvy would have apologized and moved on to avoid the scandal. She keeps it going and that really does cause some questions to integrity, not her tenacity or willingness to hold onto lost causes, but her willingness to hang onto a belief that has been proven to be wrong. Brown isn't running from his record or beliefs, is open to being told he made a mistake, and can change his mind.

What kind of senator do you really want?

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Jonathan James

9:42 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

I want a senator who has enough cajones to not vote with HIS party to filibuster . . . it takes only one person to break the ranks right now, I believe. If he is bipartisan, I haven't seen it.

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Frank Kautz

8:11 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Well Jonathan, You are right, I would love to see one Democrat with enough to stand up to their party, however, Warren would never do that. Warren will never, ever break ranks with her own party, on any issue whatsoever. So, the real question is whether you want someone who will be lock step with the Democrats or someone that may vote mostly with the Republicans, but will still vote with the Democrats on occasion. Oh, lets add in the thought that Brown is the only Republican at the moment from Massachusetts. If he goes, and the Republicans take control of Congress, there won't be nearly as much money coming to Massachusetts.

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Aron Levy

3:06 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

You want one Democratic senator willing to break ranks with their party?

Have you never heard of the Blue Dogs? You know, the ones who side with the Republicans nearly every single time an issue comes to vote?

Earnhardt

7:01 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Brown won. his answers, dancing or not had substance, Elizabeth did a lot of avoiding hard answers and at times had that "Deer in the headlights look" Just look at her commercials. A last act of desperation.

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Karen Moore

7:25 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown won hands down. He spelled out specific programs, and ways to resolve problems. He stated that he can work with both parties which is what we need. Scott Brown has shown that he has integrity, work ethic, and character. Warren lied for years to get ahead as part Indian, makes $300K a year for teaching one class, and has no specific programs she would implement that would help the economy. All I heard from her is "we need, we need" and point fingers. Scott Brown definitely has my vote!

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Earnhardt

7:29 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Check out Liz on TV this morning,, she has re-incarnated herself again. Now she is trying the softer and gentler approach. She is still trying to find out who she is. What she is is a supporter of the Obama policy. A policy of handouts and borrowing, A policy of no backbone and bowing to our enemies.

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Hal

7:46 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown won hands down, he answered all the questions directly. If you want higher taxes Warren is your choice. I am Independent and will be voting for Brown.

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Isabella Jancourtz

8:15 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Debates reveal the person, as well as the issues, allowing voters to make informed decisions.
Sen. Brown was an embarrassment last night. Sen. Warren would be a big improvement. Nobody's perfect, and candidates need to be regularly out among the people both, before and after elections, but Elizabeth could be a great senator for Massachusetts, if we elect her. Scott, obviously, could not.

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karen

8:25 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

I was impressed with Elizabeth Warren and her straightforwardness about the accusations flung by Sen. Brown. His constant whining about Ms. Warren "scaring women" was a laugh. His firing of the "she will raise taxes" is just what Republicans say when they have nothing to say. He never answered about his voting record. I laughed when he said he supports Obama and is pro-choice. How does that roll with you conservatives?

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Joe

9:17 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Even in her own ads Warren comes across as a strident screamer. Is that what we need more of in a congress that can't find common ground?

Earnhardt

8:39 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

@ Sonny 47% beaches, I have no clue what you are talking about, But but no one else does either, Show show some class, take the payback like a grownup and move on... Adios.

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Peter

8:53 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Brown certainly reminded his supporters of all the reasons they don't like Warren: the native American issue, the Harvard professor salary, etc. It's the same fodder they've been ranting and tweeting about for months.

He didn't really make the case to the rest of us, though, of why he deserves to serve another term. He didn't explain his votes on oil subsidies, for example. If we eliminate tax loopholes for oil companies, gasoline prices go up? His explanations for votes against equal pay for equal work and Justice Kagan were feeble, as well. He seems to say one thing, but then do another.

Brown may claim to be bi-partisan, but that doesn't mean you don't stand for anything. Based on his performance last night, it would be hard for an independent voter to know what they'd get with Brown.

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Alice H

3:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

why in the world does Elizabeth Warren's salary matter????

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Dan Keefe

3:11 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

No, Brown really does not hide what you would get if he is elected...
You would very likely wind up with Senator Hatch, R, Utah on the supreme court.if your former governor is also elected to the White House.
I think that is a good enough reason to elect Warren to the Senate.
Semper Fidelis...
Dan Keefe

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Patricia

3:38 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Alice,
Those of us who have college age children certainly think Warren's salary matters. She makes over $300,000 for teaching ONE class while those of us in the middle class struggle to make tuition payments. But, she says she's fighting for the middle class - right....

Susan Keeley

9:09 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

I think the lecterns won. Or maybe the colorful backdrop. A pile of wood would have been more charismatic than our senatorial candidates. I watched for 5 minutes then turned it off and slept like a rock.

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Johanna Swift Hart

9:17 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Hahahahaha! Other than the few thoughtful undecided voters posting here this thread is ridiculous, so I appreciate your obviously non-partisan assessment.

RA

9:13 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

It's so obvious that people will think their party's candidate won.

It would be awesome if the candidates didn't reveal their party affiliation til after election. Then people would actually vote the candidate and not the party.

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Sandra Shaw

9:33 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Well, RA, you must be thinking of Scott Brown when it comes to not revealing his party affiliation. He avoided any mention of "republican" and would not even mention his candidate for President - that would be Mitt.

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Peter

9:35 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Interesting suggestion, RA. In fact, I don't think Mr. Brown mentioned at all during the debate that he's a Republican. It was Ms. Warren who reminded voters of that.

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Joe

9:14 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Keep in mind Brown's running in a state that has three times as many registered Dems as Republicans. The fact that any Republican can be competitive in as one dimensional a state as Massachusetts is a miracle. Which is one reason I've voting for Brown. It's time our congressional delegation become a little more diverse, a little more representative of the state population as a whole.

Iron Mike

9:59 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

WBZ won – by drawing more than their deserved share of viewers.

Keller lost – by asking puff-ball questions – and losing control

The Voters lost – by having only a poor choice – and a really bad one.

Brown proved himself a nimble RiNO.

Warren proved herself a 20+ year liar and a devoted Marxist / socialist intent on taxing rich people. Her attempt to vilify Jim Imhofe last night was revealing – like most socialist change artists – she needs a constant supply of bogymen [or straw men] to argue against.

Lizzy, you're not in Oklahoma anymore – even if you flipped 20+ foreclosed homes there. Warrens comments on our military were laughable. She hasn't a clue. Like all Dems - she wants an 'Exit Strategy'. OK Lizzy, - exit stage left!

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Katy G.

8:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Iron Mike, you hit on a sensitive issue for me. My oldest son is currently serving, I have a nephew in the Navy and another who served in the Army during the Bush administration. Our military is suffering badly under democratic dominance in the federal government. Obama started removing funding for military programs right after he took office. The number of troops killed in Afghanistan was double that of the whole Bush administration within the first two years of Obama taking office. The white House has leaked information about military operations in a way that has jeopardized OP SEC for the troops probably leading to the downing of the helicopter carrying so many members of SEAL Team 6. The leaks appear to be done intentionally to make Obama look good. It's disgusting and shameful.
Scott Brown has served this country honorably in the National Guard. He cares about the troops much more than any democrat. I don't agree with getting rid of DADT, but any democrat would be so much worse in terms of reduced funding and general disrespect for our troops. Other than the lies and greed on the part of Ms. Warren, I just can't vote for a party that has damaged our ability to defend ourselves and our standing in the world as much as the democrats have in the last few years.

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melinda tillie

1:16 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

You asked where the 16 Trillion dollar debt came from? Eight years of the Bush Tax Cuts Two wars all on the credit card and not any of it paid for. Oh those "Rs" and they say the dems like to spend money!

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

10:18 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Warren is too valuable at Harvard to waste her talents in Washington. Sending a RINO back to the Senate is the best we can hope for in Massachusetts.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Aron Levy

3:17 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Clergymen should not be involved in politics. Either reveal your true name and renounce your 'ordination' or keep quiet.

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Frank Kautz

3:58 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Since when does becoming clergy deprive someone of their freedom of speech or right to be in politics Aron? Sorry, but that kind of thing does not advance your cause, but rather makes you look like you just don't like people that disagree with your opinion.

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Aron Levy

4:06 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Frank, perhaps you're new here. Deacon Pimp is NOT a man of the cloth. He is a professional troll. And since he considers the Patch his 'flock,' he has no right to electioneer from the pulpit. Tax exemptions and all that...

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Frank Kautz

4:15 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Hi Aron, yes, I am new here. So I will take your word that he may not be who he says he is, however, I will challenge you on your statement about the clergy.

Now, if you put it along the lines of those that refuse to use their own name and hide behind alias' shouldn't be involved in politics, then I will agree with you. If you believe enough in your opinion to write it down, then you should put your own name to it.

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Iron Mike

4:42 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Hey Aron, who appointed YOU as the referee and umpire of our 1st Amendments?

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Aron Levy

4:49 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

It's a self-appointed position. You had the opportunity to snatch it up, but you simply waited too long. Not my fault.

John Toto

10:20 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Right on Iron Mike.
Let's not forget Professor Warren's dealing with Travelers Insurance.
Correct, she is a committed Marxist who wants to steal money from taxpayers and have the government decide what is best for us. She is against American values and Capitalism. Collectivism is what radical progressives like Warren fully believe.
That's not America.

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Iron Mike

10:33 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

And John, - as we've watched with the bumbling Obama Cartel [likethe Carter Cartel before it], - these Marxists are FULL of 'ideas' – but can't make them actually WORK when the rubber meets the road.

Somebody [with a brain] show me ONE (1) single Obama policy idea which translated into RESULTS on the ground!

The only RESULTS I’ve seen is the so-called Arab Spring, higher unemployment, higher gas and food pries, more foreclosures, bankrupt solar companies, more people than EVER on Food Stamps, GM stockholders screwed out of their life savings, and our former friends and allies afraid to share secrets with us.

The single BIGGEST RESULT I can see is a much weaker USA. Oh, - and that Canadian oil being sold to China!

John Toto

10:46 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Liberal Media is protecting Obama & Warren for sure. They don't want to report on all these horrible statistics and facts. Yesterday, Obama lied again saying embassy uprising was result of a youtube video. The state department and intelligence has said it was pre-planned for 9/11. Obama is an amateur and America suffers.

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Phil

12:08 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Ms. Warren has a severe charachter flaw.She simply is unable to be truthful. She helped her fortune by flipping foreclosed (little guy) properties in Oklahoma. She made hundreds of thousands defending Travelers insurance against legitimate (little guy) asbestos claims. She gained her Harvard positions by falsley claiming Cherokee heritage and taking that job from a more deserving and more highly qualified minority. Finally a shallow move of getting rid of her BMW and buying a Prius. In a two party system it is foolish for th residents of Massachusetts to have representation on only one side of the aisle.

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Aron Levy

3:19 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

How DARE she take a job defending a client! She should be hanged, drawn, and quartered for even CONSIDERING earning a paycheck!

Ugh. Such typical conservative pablum.

MJ

12:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I was for Warren before the debate, now I'm REALLY for Warren! Scott Brown is a jerk.

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Frank Trades

1:50 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Typical Demo-Tax-and-Spendocrat comment. Insult the candidate and run away. No thought, not reasoning, no brains displayed.

Iron Mike

1:13 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

TO gneissghai;

Respect has to be earned. This pResident has totally blown any shred of respect out his...teleprompter. He has betrayed allies, given away their and OUR secrets, and given away BILLION$ to his campaign bundlers - in the form of 'Green Loan Guarantees'.

He is UNWORTHY of our respect and undeserving of another term. He has sullied OUR White House!

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Dr.DEH

1:43 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

SB in agreement with RNC has to vote in-step... unless, it is predetermined a "contradicting vote" will not have negative impact on party agenda. This is stated and agreed in order for him to retain his "bi-partisan status" and claim "independence" in voting practices. This will assure the vote when necessary for blocking or advancing agendas as determined by the speaker. Maintaining this position will continue support from RNC.
As directed/coached, the first specific item was to be questioning the "integrity and honesty of opponent." Ask for the release of personnel files plus resumes and questioned documented during the interview process. KNOWING that by law those records cannot be released and by federal law in the application and interview process there are to be no questions or documents filed pertaining to race, gender, ethnicity, age, family status, health related or physical handicaps, or other items outlined by federal guidelines.

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Frank Trades

1:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Mass. needs another blind ultra-liberal in the legislature like it need another trillion dollars of debt.

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Iron Mike

2:26 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Careful there Frank, - that's all the encouragement some of these MoonBats need.

They have NO IDEA what a Trillion $$$ is...OR who is going to pay it back. They couldn't find Greece on a map!

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Aron Levy

3:21 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Can either of you geniuses find Greece on the map? How about their tax offices where Greek citizens simply REFUSED to pay? Rates and healthcare had nothing to do with a Grecian bankruptcy.

Unwillingness to pay taxes had everything to do with it.

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Frank Kautz

4:03 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Aron, to say that rates and healthcare had nothing to do with Greece's problem is also wrong. Yes, the Greeks had people who refused to pay their taxes, but many of them did so because the rates were way too high. The Greek economy is in a mess because their government tried to pay for everything with more and more loans. Does this really sound all that dissimilar from what we are doing today here in this country?

Oh, and before you ask, yes, not only can I find Greece on a map, I can also find every other European country, Asian country, most African countries (provided they have not changed their name recently), and all of those on the American continents. I will admit to getting somewhat lost in Micronesia and the rest of the islands, however, I am willing to bet that you do as well if you don't use it regularly.

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Aron Levy

4:09 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Frank K, I am well aware that most of us know where Greece is on the map. I was merely pointing out the ridiculous nature of Balsa Bill's accusations.

And if taxing and spending is so awful, why does Northern Europe possess the highest standard of living in the world? They're about as close to Socialist Paradises as can be found in reality.

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Frank Kautz

4:18 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

And, unfortunately, those "social paradises" are going under. Germany is almost single-handedly keeping the Euro afloat. How long it can do that is an interesting question, particularly given that not only Greece, but Spain, Ireland, and Italy are not all that far behind. Oh, and my friends who live in those "social paradises" would not agree with that description. They all have their own problems as well.

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Anonymous

4:56 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Aron, on "Northern Europe" countries you are again mixing apples and oranges. Those N. European countries don't have to provide for 300+ mln multi-racial (47% don't pay taxes, 30% fat and sick) semi-educated population.

Dr.DEH

2:00 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

A healthy government needs strong, accurate, and intelligent debate from both sides. Having Dr. Warren as a Senator will strengthen the entire process. Mr. Brown is a "nice guy" but he is not strong, decisive, nor confident enough to stand up as an intricate member. He is being used... and I think he honestly knows it as well. He was "allowed" as part of the strategy to show a side of pro-choice, claim the bill restricting congressional members from insider trading, and include tier two businesses in tax break claim numbers. He was also selected as the senator to speak out nationally against Rep. Todd Akin (R-Missouri). It's called strategy... and he's the puppet.
I am crossing and voting for Elizabeth Warren. The country needs strong leadership and accountability for both sides to keep this government healthy.

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mary

11:40 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

Dr.DEH has the best analogy that I have read so far. I agree that Brown is a puppet of his party and that anyone who would think that voters cannot see through this tactic is blind to political tactics.

Anonymous

2:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

After this news: http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/09/21/scott-brown-asbestos-fact-check-true-but-misleading/nu1TAHsEexXYA5LvVWvpYI/story.html
I still don't get it how people can support this fake Native-American hypocrite elitist professor Warren.

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Iron Mike

3:01 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

You want a truthful answer?

Because just like kids in Muslim countries are taught as toddlers to hate Jews and Westerners, - in SOME Democrat households, - kids learn from childhood that Republicans are 'all rich fat cats who $crew the working class'.

And if you've been brought up listening to that from your parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles - - you are thusly indoctrinated.

In those households, - they never figure out who actually signs the paychecks...

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Aron Levy

3:22 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Yeah, who signs the paychecks. Like me, a proud Democrat and small business owner.

rvd

3:13 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

At the end of the day Brown will follow his party line on important issues where his vote really counts. He is Republican after all. If you vote for Brown - you vote for GOP. You better share their ideas, otherwise one cold morning you'll wake up in the country you don't recognize anymore.

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Anonymous

3:34 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

At the end of the day, you will vote for a dog as long as she put a blue badge on herself with letter "D".

Anonymous

3:52 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

"one cold morning you'll wake up in the country you don't recognize anymore" - I think it will be exactly true if Democrats run the country. Because GOP stands for traditional values and way of life, just like most people in this world.

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rvd

4:14 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

"Because GOP stands for traditional values and way of life, just like most people in this world."
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Says who? Here In MA GOP is in minority, which means most people do NOT "stand for its traditional values and way of life".

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Katy G.

9:09 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

rvd, MA is not typical of the rest of the country. I wouldn't hold this state up as an example of traditional American values. In mid western states where my husband has relatives it's not unusual to have at least one family member in the military. It was a real wake up to me to see how many of my liberal friends in Concord and Lexington acted as though my son had joined the mafia when I said that he was enlisting. There really is a completely different mind set between conservatives and liberals. The liberal anti-Christian, anti-gun rights, anti-military, and anti-life attitude is not typical in the South or in mid Western states. Progressives in this country have introduced at remarkable speed a range of transformative cultural changes- welfare, abortion, birth control driven meaningless sex, feminism, the idea that everyone has to go to college, and the reduction of the importance of the role of men in our society. The cumulative effect after a few decades of this is that the developed world has developed to the breaking point. The traditions that anonymous is referencing existed in this country and drove a good deal of our success in the world. It's telling that you are so unable to identify them that you think that majority acceptance of a lower standard of behavior is in itself a tradition.

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Anonymous

9:24 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Kathy G. They (liberals) call all those "pervertsive" values and behaviors as "progressive".

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Aron Levy

3:28 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Slavery and segregation were 'traditional values.'

Would you support the repeal of the Fourtheenth Amendment and the Civil Rights Act?

(Oh, and nice job not having the strength of your convictions to reveal your name.)

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Anonymous

3:42 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Nice job mixing apples and oranges. But as a matter of fact, slavery and segregation still exist, unofficially.
(Oh, and why do you pick on me only? If I called myself "Abc", like "rvd", it would be better?)

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Aron Levy

3:50 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Apples and oranges? Hardly. I am merely pointing out that the prevailing opinions regarding 'traditional' opinions may not necessarily be correct.

And at least somebody who uses a username like 'rvd' is presumably using their own initials. And that means there is a real person behind the name.

You are simply not confident enough to post your real name.

(Oh, and segregation may still exist, but it isn't institutional. And slavery is LONG GONE in this country.)

That being said, your 'traditional values' folks are on a steady decline. Like it or not, the younger folks among us (myself included) realize that everyone, regardless of race, creed, sex, orientation, etc. deserves a right to be happy. And as the older generations pass on, your outmoded social mores will pass on as well.

While I won't make an apt comparison to the Historical Dialectic, I will simply state that times change. People change. Society changes.

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Anonymous

4:18 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I am very confident enough in my opinions. Perhaps, I should have picked another nickname, so the word "anonymous" won;t stick in a face and raise some flag for people like you.
But, speaking of values, who are you to judge which one is correct and which one is not? I am not considering myself an old, though I am not just out of college and I have a family. But maybe for you and you ilk when 2 men have sex is progressive and you don;t mind if you children become gay, because they were told in school it;s all normal. But for me and most of people in this world, it's not. It's pervertsive and it is unnatural. Because homosexual couples cannot procreate. And what is not natural is not normal. Just common sense. And yes, man and woman have different qualities. And woman's primary role is to have babies.

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Aron Levy

4:26 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

'Woman's primary role is to have babies?'

Sir, I believe the nineteenth century ended about 112 years ago. And schools telling children that homosexuality is 'normal' has nothing to do with it. Nurture has no bearing on sexual orientation. It is entirely nature.

You are born that way. And I can produce any number of legitimate academic studies to back up my evidence.

The most you can produce is probably Paul 'discredited' Cameron.

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Anonymous

4:50 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I don't care about your "legitimate academic studies". I only know that nature stands on procreation (humans, animals, plants, everything live). Other than that is unnatural, so abnormal aka sick.
2nd point. Since we don't live in slave/segregation era anymore as you mentioned, we have to get rid of all racial preferences and quotas. The color of my children should not be their disadvantage when they apply into university or college.

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Aron Levy

4:54 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Point A.) He who provides the best evidence wins. I can provide evidence. You cannot. Therefore, your position is invalid.

Point B.) If you actually believe institutional racism no longer exists, I suggest you travel into Boston sometime. We are among the most racist cities in the nation.

And if you really feel that poor minorities enjoy just as much of an opportunity to get into good schools and jobs as their more affluent neighbors, you are simply ignorant of reality.

(How do you think your boy Clarence Thomas got his judicial appointment? Because it certainly was not based on merit alone...)

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Katy G.

9:52 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

WOW, Aaron Levy's last statement on this feed is the most racist thing I've read here. I could ignore Mr. Levy's attempt at censorship against the Reverend because so many liberals try to pull censorship on anyone who disagrees with them. I can ignore Mr. Levy imagining himself to represent 'youth' in this conversation. Many delusional young people think that they and their cohort represent everyone like them, it's a sort of twisted discrimination to see the world through your own narrow view with no attempt made to see the perspective of anyone who disagrees with you. But for Mr. Levy to imply that Justice Thomas didn't earn his position on his own merits is such blatant racism. Levy, you're a narrow minded twit who uses contempt to try to brow beat anyone who disagrees with you. I can only feel sorry for you displaying your narrow minded ignorance on this feed. My Dad got into Harvard in the 50s. My grandfather is native American. do you think that my Dad didn't earn his position? As for your assertion that Boston is a racist city, only you and your friends. One of my middle sons is dating a Muslim woman from Nigeria. My niece recently married a young from Jamaica. You just hang out with other narrow minded people. None of the young people in my family see things the way you do. I come from a huge family, I'm one of 10 kids who gave our parents 22 grand kids, and two great-grand kids with one on the way. You need to get out with some good folks. You're lost.

Anonymous

4:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

that's because there is something wrong with them.

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David Lahr

5:50 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Warren won. She presented concrete plans for fixing the economy and balancing the budget by compromising - spending cuts and tax incresaes. Brown said repeatedly no new taxes for anyone - how can anyone claim that is being "independent"? Brown said repeatedly he was independent, but his actions and specific ideas say otherwise.

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Anonymous

8:21 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

David, by saying "no new taxes for everyone", it means already being independent.

brooklinemom

6:24 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown lost me forever when he embarrassed his two daughters on live TV during his election victory speech two years ago. He claims to understand women, but any man who uses females of any age as fodder for sexual innuendo is a pig.

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Brooklyn Lowery

6:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Folks, let's keep in mind the terms of use, please (http://wayland.patch.com/terms). We're all for healthy debate here, but language that "is defamatory, abusive, obscene, profane or offensive" will be deleted.

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fitzroy

7:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

To whom are you speaking? Is this Wayland Patch, or is it Lexington Patch? Besides, Anne Coulter would argue this is healthy debate.

Washashorecapecod

6:54 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Brown is just another pretty face. He is a bully and in the pocket of the 1% to not raise taxes. Elizabeth is honest and very smart. She will listen to her constituents. Brown listens only to the Republican Party. He is a good dancer as evidenced by his performance on Thursday. Elizabeth won hands down.
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Adriana Cohen

6:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sen. Brown won the debate hands down. All Prof. Warren wants to do is continue with the leftist tax & spend policies that have failed us under the Obama Administration. Obama has borrowed, taxed and spent over 5 trillion dollars to date and all we have to show for it is: no jobs, a failed Energy policy, high gas prices, high unemployment, a socialist health care system that's going to raid 800 MM from Medicaid which over half of this country doesn't want, and the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. That's all that Hope & Change delivered. Talk is cheap. I'll elect a doer who nets positive real results for our country any day of the week. And that's Scott Brown. He's passed several excellent pieces of legislation for our country since he's taken office. The Violence Against Women Act, The Crowdfunding legislation, The STOCK ACT and more.. Given more time, he'll acheive many more good things for our country. And that includes - JOBS!

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Richard Marcus

8:09 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Does anyone want to discuss Scott Brown's record. It's great to say you're for something, it's quite another thing to actually act according to a position. SB says he's for equal pay, but voted against a law to enforce it. SB says he's pro-choice but voted to exclude women's health from health insurance. In saying he wants to appeal Obamacare, he is saying he wants children off their parents insurance at age 21 instead of 26, he says its okay to deny coverage to someone with a pre-existing condition, he says its okay for insurers to put yearly and lifetime caps on coverage, he says its okay for insurers to charge women more for health coverage, and he did vote for deficit neutral jobs bills, three different ones. He runs ads saying the president signed his bill outlawing congressional insider trading and that's not true. His bill was a copy of another bill, was poorly written and the bill that was signed by the President was written by Senator Lieberman. And for him to not filibuster the Financial Reform Bill, he had a $19 Billion fee that was charged to the financial institutions to fund the Consumer Financial Protection Board dropped from the bill, and charged to the US taxpayer, in exchange for his vote. Two weeks later, Senator Brown received $2 million in donations from Wall Street. It was reported in the Springfield Republican newspaper. So what has he done for MA?

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fitzroy

8:31 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

First off, the moderator was terrible...first question related to character, that certainly set the stage for Brown's response on EW's claim to be native american...and then, because the moderator did such a terrible job of controlling the debate the two politicians were allowed to go back and forth, etc, with out moderation. Brown and EW walked all over the the moderator.
Who is Richard of Leominster?
Really, is a lefty like EW really "considered 67% more effective at cutting the deficit"?
Has EW been elected to office before? Aren't academics really suited only for political appointments?
EW is out of her depth and looked totally frazzled...

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DAD

1:49 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

As far as the moderator goes, mr. Keller ( Intentional ) Where does he get off calling a seated Senator Mr. ? He did it twice calling him Mr. Brown.

An Lai

8:37 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Aah, it's all over now. Menino has finally endorsed the democratic puppet candidate, Without a true vote at state convention, the party bigwigs put her in place as a chosen candidate . It's a great Country!

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Anonymous

8:43 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Does anyone really believe that professor Brown is going to fight for middle class (aka those non-union private sector workers making some 50k-150k per year) ?

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Anonymous

10:15 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Unless you work for Travelers Insurance.

Iron Mike

10:17 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

TO: Katy G:

>> “I just can't vote for a party that has damaged our ability to defend ourselves and our standing in the world as much as the democrats have in the last few years.”

You've said more than a mouthful there Katy: – you've hit upon the CORE of the real issue. Is our government supposed to protect and defend us from all enemies, foreign or domestic, - - OR – is our government supposed to be preoccupied with wealth redistribution and making sure poor people get 'their fair share' of Bill Gates' money.

Obama is preoccupied with social issues – and he is totally disinterested in keeping us strong and safe. Quite to the contrary, he is deliberately weakening us, deliberately making us more vulnerable, and inviting our enemies to storm our city [and embassy] gates.

He's NOT on our side – he's on the side of 'oppressed colonial peoples', and he intends to exact retribution.

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BF

10:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Look....in normal times I might be inclined to vote for Scott Brown. He is a decent guy and, though I do not agree with all his positions, he is a moderate Republican. I think that is a good thing. However, the Republican Party has swung so far to the right that, in my opinion, it would be disastrous to give them control of both houses of congress. Regardless of his 'bipartisanism', he is still a Republican and will be coerced to vote the party line, regardless of what he says or believes. Balance of Power.

In the 1980's, when Reagan was President, he would meet with Tip ONeil and they would work things out and get things done. And Bill Clinton worked with Newt Gingrich, even as the Republican Congress was holding impeachment hearings. Today...not so much. I think Boehner may have tried early on, but the vitriol by the right in the house was too much for him. So nothing accomplished....So can't do it..

And I do believe that Prof Warren will work for the middle class as she says...my opinion.

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Iron Mike

10:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

BF, Tip O'Neil was a DEMOCRAT - not a Socialist. Obama and Warren are socialists.

Obama appears to hate almost everything our country stands for - starting with our Constitution. Warren appears to be one of his temple handmaidens.

THINK: $16 Trillion in DEBT! 45,000,000 on welfare. Black unemployment at 16.7% - under the 'first black president'. How'd THAT happen? Billion$ given to phony solar companies - really just paybacks to his campaign bundlers.

THINK: American and Israeli military and state secrets given away to the Russians, to the Iranians and Arabs, - and to a Hollywood movie producer? Whose side is this president on???!?

THINK!

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

1:04 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Where will Warren do the least damage? That is the question.

In Washington she already created another useless bureaucracy. Like others, this one will become bloated with fresh college graduates who could have led otherwise productive lives in the private sector. It is not like we don't have enough government agencies to protect the consumer.

If Warren remains a Harvard professor she will cultivate new generations of leftist Harvard graduates. We have a good supply of these, but could use a few more.

As voters, our choice is simple.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Cat

2:23 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

It's scary for Scott Brown to win and have a Republican Senate that will have a guy who doesn't believe in global warming heading the EPA. A Republican Senate will increase the deficit with tax cuts for the rich while destroying middle class deductions, government services such as Medicare/Medicaid, education. Scott Brown and the tea party have just made governing a total mess.

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Katy G.

11:43 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Cat, please back your statements up with some facts. It is a fact that Obama has added 6 trillion dollars to our deficit, that in consequence to the PC ROE for our military more than double the number of troops have been killed in Afghanistan since Obama took office, unemployment has been above 8% since Obama took office, automatic weapons have been sold to gangsters on the border with Mexico that have resulted in the deaths of one border agent and over 300 Mexicans in a program put together by Obama's Justice Dept., the country is at the point of economic collapse and sequestration for our military is on the horizon. If things look bad in this country it isn't because of the Republicans. Obama had a super majority for the first two years that he was in office and the country is in deep trouble. Increasing taxes doesn't increase revenue. When people get to keep more of their own money they spend it and hire people and the economy grows. The government is not what grows the economy, businesses and industry grow the economy. Right now businesses are laying people off. Obama and his EPA shut down the Key Stone pipeline and put a moratorium on offshore drilling in the Gulf. The middle east is on fire. If we can no longer get oil from the middle east because of social and political unrest the price of gas will go through the roof, then what will happen to what's left of our economy?

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Iron Mike

1:58 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Hey Cat, let me explain 'Global Warming' to you...

Where you are sitting RIGHT NOW - was once covered by a sheet of ICE - 1 MILE THICK!!!

That was about 10,000 years ago. There were very few humans back then, and ~ most ~ of them didn't own cars....

If Al Gore really believes in man-made global warming and rising oceans - WHY did he buy a seaside mansion?

sheila Loayza

2:13 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Warren won hands down. Brown's attacks on her heritage, job and salary were acts of desperation. Brown lost his cool while Warren stayed on topic. He attacked her while she attacked his voting record.

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melinda tillie

2:22 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Warren definetly won the debate. Brown had a lot of nerve to hit her on ethnicity does this really matter? she is a Harvard Prof. and is no dummy. She will give him a run for his money. Forward Elizabeth!

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Joy Kenen

8:16 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

No, melinda. Sen. Brown had a duty to point that out. It's a matter of INTEGRITY and HONESTY. Misuse of affirmative action set-asides should anger Democrats; I wonder who Ms. Warren stepped over to get to Harvard? Oh, but then, I guess we'll never know that because she'll never release her hiring records and Harvard and UPenn would never admit to hiring her for that reason either. Back in the 80's and 90's many law schools were having trouble attracting female and minority professors. Warren was a 2-fer as soon as she checked that box, making her trip up the professional ladder a whole lot quicker.

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Katy G.

8:25 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

I'm grateful that Senator Brown brought up Ms. Warren's repeated lying about her heritage to get ahead. You know that if a Republican had done this it would have been the end of her career. My grandfather was a Pasamaquoddy. My father got into Harvard on his own merits. Everyone in my family would be embarrassed to try to use our heritage as a leverage to get ourselves ahead. Everyone in my family has either succeeded on their own merits or failed for want of trying. The way we see it we were born in America and we're Americans. Ms. Warren has no, zero, Native heritage. She is dishonest to the core. What exposes liberals is that as long as Ms. Warren is a liberal hack it doesn't matter how dishonest she is. You can only hold someone with integrity to a standard that requires integrity. By stating that dishonesty doesn't matter to you you are reflecting on the value of honesty in your own life. What do you call someone who tells lies? A liar. What do you call someone who tricks people out of their money and deceives people to get what they haven't earned? A thief. Anyway, I haven't seen any liberals explaining how this country is going to continue to survive under this crushing debt, how the current policy of monetizing the debt is going to keep our currency from collapsing, and how our military is going to defend us after sequestration when they're struggling to do it under the present cuts.

Tony

6:44 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

The first time I saw Scott Brown auctioning off his daughters after his victory speech I found it a bit strange. However, during the debate it all began to make sense in his condescending treatment of Ms. Warren. Actually he came off kind of creepy.
For the life of me I can never understand how anyone who isn't in the 99% could vote for a Grover Norquist pledge signing/keep the Bush Tax cuts republican like Brown. It's tantamount to chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.
Haven't you been trickled down on long enough?

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Iron Mike

7:50 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Creepy?

What's creepy is all the Moonbats commenting here who seem OBLIVIOUS to our $16 TRILLION national DEBT and our $103 BILLION state DEBT - and who are more focused of phony issues like 'did scott Brown vote against women?'

Warren is an Obama handmaiden - together with Pelosi and Dirty Harry Reid they'll raise our DEBT to $25 TRILLION by 2016. Tell me MoonBats, HOW are your grandchildren going to pay for your feel-good voting?

DevalPatrick2016

8:12 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

You'll know what feels creepy in November "Mike" when you and your closeted friends get a moonbat upsdie the head in November!--Looking forward to your whining after that---Could you take the fake Reverend with you when you move to Canada please?

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Katy G.

8:34 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

There are some intelligent democrats on this site who use factual information to back up their perspective. Insulting someone isn't an argument it's a crutch for someone who can't engage in critical thinking and reasoning. I'm sorry that Ms. Gritter left this conversation. She was one of a small number of liberals who actually made me think about my perspective on things as opposed to demonstrating that most liberals are incapable of having a civil discussion with someone who disagrees with them. Mr. Marcus and Dr. DEH can articulate reasons to back up their support for Ms. Warren. I may not agree with their reasoning, and it would take a lot of space to express why, but I appreciate that they actually have a thought out opinion. If you put the governors name on your post try at least to use some of the intelligence and diplomacy he uses when discussing issues with other people. Otherwise, you're not only insulting yourself, you're insulting Gov. Patrick.

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Iron Mike

8:36 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Coule you please make an adult comment about our $16 Trillion national DEBT, and our $103 Billion state DEBT?

Your threat of violence won't solve either problem, but does serve to explain to the uninformed readers here why you and your ilk are called MoonBats.

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Aron Levy

3:35 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

And Mike, you are nothing but a wingnut. And as an admitted birther, you're HARDLY in any position to criticize someone for 'not making adult comments.'

Anonymous

8:44 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Mike, I guess, those people have real problems with their brains, so they don't use brains at all, even that it means they will suffer and pay more taxes and loose their jobs, and their children will get mediocre education, and this country will go bankrupt like Greece. They don't care. They still go by images, slogans and cliches.

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Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

11:32 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Iron Mike, you have this nasty habit of reverting to facts.

"You can tell a moonbat, but you can't tell 'em much."

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Anne Johnson Mahon

8:49 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

I found it interesting that Brown could say that Warren was lying about his record even when his voting is public record and it's clear he does vote for huge oil subsidies and to cut veterans benefits, National healthcare (even though his daughters benefit from Obama/Romneycare) and the safety nets for those that make less than a million annually.
I'm looking for someone who has a track record of protecting the middle class and not a Romney bum licker who spreads nude on Cosmo centerfolds. Give me a person that can pass a mirror without looking at it and getting an erection. I'll take Lizzy Warren hands down.

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Poppaone

9:14 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

"Give me a person that can pass a mirror without looking at it and getting an erection. I'll take Lizzy Warren hands down." You got that right. Warren is the best erection killer in the race. Why is that leftists are always insulted by truth, and result to rude comments like Ms. Mahon's when challenged with factual data. The problem with progessives is that they believe their own propaganda. Their skill is that they are able to lie with a straight face. They feed you a sh*t sandwhich and tell you its roast beef. I think this year the political race has become so heated is because the democrats and the media have so polarized this nation that the rest of us have said "ENOUGH!"

Earnhardt

4:24 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Just got home and got the mail. Elizabeth's latest mailing is a last act of desperation. A no chance ad from a no chance candidate, Has she actually stated her plan? All she has done was dodge questions or defer to other's for statements.Everything she SAYS she will fight for are the same things EVERY candidate says,generic statements at best. Another Obama bureaucratic appointment who accomplished nothing.

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Earnhardt

4:31 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

@ Sonny 47% beaches, I would love to go round with a moron such as yourself, but I am over you. Please excuse me I need to take a Sonny and Wipe my beaches, adios fool!

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W Sheridan

1:32 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

BROWN;S VOTING RECORD:
Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial Nay

Cybersecurity Act of 2012 Yea

Extends Middle Class Tax Cuts Nay

DISCLOSE Act Nay

Prohibits the EPA from Conducting Aerial Surveillance of Agricultural Operations Yea

Reduces Funding for Food Stamps Yea Prohibits Pharmaceutical Companies from Delaying the Release of Generic Drugs Nay

Extends Student Loan Interest Rates (Reid Bill) Nay

Establishes a Minimum 30 Percent Tax Rate for High-Income Taxpayers Nay

Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline Project Yea

American Jobs and Economic Growth Nay American Jobs Act of 2011 Nay

Patriot Act Extension Yea Amending Oil Company Tax Laws Nay

Extension of Tax Cuts for Those Making Under $1 Million Nay

Federal Reserve Audit Nay

9/11 Health and Compensation Act Nay

http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/18919/

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Anonymous

11:58 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

I recently realized about the favorite tactics of Democrats in Senate. 1st they create a bill which has about 100 of unnecessary spending programs. Of course they know that Republicans will reject that excessive spending bill. And then they add as 101st to be a good popular spending program like "9/11 Health and Compensation Act". So Republicans will vote "Nay" for 101 programs because 100 of them are waste. They only want to select 1 program, but Democrats don't like that. So they will then paint Republicans as evil people who deny benefits to 9/11 firefighters. Brainwashed people like W.Sheridan believe in their propaganda blindly and then spread around the world same BS. But not everyone is that stupid here.

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Frank Kautz

1:20 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Law License or lack thereof.

Before everyone jumps up and down on this as an issue there are a few facts that we need yet. First, Warren did not and does not need a Massachusetts Bar card to be admitted to or practice in the Federal Courts. They are a different system and, as such, just need you to be admitted somewhere in the country (I believe that she is admitted in New Jersey). Second, did Warren first chair any of these cases, or did she just provide research support from the back bench? Third, did she appear anywhere in Massachusetts? Since the answer to these is pretty clear, this is little more than a red herring. (One I suspect to have come out to embarrass Republicans and get away from the Cherokee comments.)

If you really want to see her law record and what her cases were, go to New Jersey and pull them there. Chances are pretty high that she never handled a case here in the Commonwealth's courts. Or at least not directly, she probably consulted on several, but didn't enter an appearance. A check through the Social Law Library does not show her appearance on any of the listed opinions.

So, in the end, Elizabeth Warren is more of an activist than a lawyer. Don't worry where she is not admitted to practice, worry more that she is a theorist who doesn't really practice her own theories. It is easy to be "gutsy" when someone else pays the price.

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Aron Levy

3:38 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Anyone who believes ANYTHING on Breitbart deserves the lies they are being force-fed.

DAD

2:28 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

To Frank Kautz, She had a license in Texas and N.J. her Texas license is listed as inactive, and as for her N.J. license her name does not exist on their NJ Bar Examiners
website. Take that for what it is worth.

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Frank Kautz

2:43 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

"Dad,"

She went inactive in New Jersey on September 11, 2012 according to a news report I recently read. She has been inactive in Texas for years. She was never active in Massachusetts, so up until September 11, 2012, she was an active lawyer. She could file in and participate in cases in New Jersey and in any Federal Court she was admitted into (Federal Courts are individual admissions rather than the blanket admissions that the states use). So, there just isn't that much worth to this, it is a red herring that I am really willing to bet was put out there by some Democrat to make the Republicans run around in a tizzy and look foolish.

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Poppaone

3:58 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

And she did not bother to get a license to practice law in New Jersey or Massachusetts because...?

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Frank Kautz

4:08 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

She had a law license in New Jersey and it was active until about two weeks ago. My guess is that she let it lapse to avoid paying the fees and because she is assuming that she is going to win the election.

She never got one here for the same reason that most law professors didn't get one here, she did not practice law in Massachusetts' courts.

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DAD

8:09 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

"Frank Kautz"Because she resigned her law license , . What she was before she resigned is not available by her action of resigning , So you can not say she was active. "DAD"

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Frank Kautz

10:07 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

"Dad,"

I am sorry, but your last statement confuses me. Prior to resigning her law license in New Jersey, Warren was an active attorney from 1977 until September 11, 2012. She had the right to practice law in the state of New Jersey and any Federal Court to which she was admitted. (I am not sure of the dates she was admitted in Texas, but between the start and end dates, she could also practice law of the State of Texas.) The interesting thing here is that she does not cease to be a lawyer when she goes inactive, she just cannot practice. Oh, and one does not cease to be a lawyer when one is disbarred, one just cannot practice law any more. Once a person has passed the bar and been sworn in, they are a lawyer for life, whether they exercise it or not. In some respects, it is a lot like being a priest.

Oh, and if you are interested, I do have more than a passing knowledge of this. You can type my name in the MA BBO search engine and it will let you know that I have been admitted in MA since 1998. http://massbbo.org/bbolookup.php

Valera Bochkarev

4:13 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Usual, under-handed snide derision of "Harvard Professor" and blowing things out of proportion about inconsequential matters goes hand in hand with the customary tradition of smearing the opponent with lots of excrement and hoping some will stick...
People, don't you understand that using personal insults and inuendos (shrill voice, slander, platitudes - WITHOUT concrete examples) is NOT a substitute for substance ? It just drags down the civil debate to carnival barkers' level. If you are comfortable with that - by all means, but don't try to prove that this is normal, PLEASE..

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Anonymous

5:14 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Yes, but at some point, the things should be called by their true names. And people, especially liberals, don't like to hear the truth, because truth may not be very pleasant. Kinda slippery slop.

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John

1:36 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

@ Anonymous- lest we forget- YOU are the ONE person who knows "truth." Thank you for gracing us all with your reminder. Conservatives know everything of truth. They are superhumans who understand everything about how the economy and businesses work. You really should run for office so we can all be the beneficiaries of your wondrous truth.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

5:11 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

It gets better and better. Thank you Legal Insurrection and Breitbart.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Aron Levy

5:25 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Anonymous, now I can see why you would not wish to broadcast your name: Who would want to knowingly associate with a racist?

You and I are done here. There was ABSOLUTELY NO reason to bring up miscegenation.

Why don't you head over to Stormfront or VDARE? You'll likely be far more comfortable there.

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Anonymous

5:34 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

How classical. It doesn't take long for left-winger to call someone who opposes affirmative action to be a racist. You are right, we live on different planets. But as a matter of fact, MLK is on my side, because he dreamed that people be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their characters. I am sure he would oppose any race-based preferential treatments as well.

Aron Levy

6:10 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Anonymous, I was not calling you a racist for disliking affirmative action. I know plenty of rational people who oppose affirmative action.

I called you a racist for your ' 300+ mln multi-racial (47% don't pay taxes, 30% fat and sick) semi-educated population' comment. Again like I said, you oppose miscegenation. That makes you a racist.

You can claim that I'm playing the race card because I'm losing the argument. I would counter that by stating you were the first one to bring up the concept of race.

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Anonymous

6:40 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

you have an issue that you throw false labels on people without any proof. Where do you see from above my comment '300+ mln multi-racial (47% don't pay taxes, 30% fat and sick) semi-educated population' comment as an opposition to miscegenation? If you go to Wikipedia and read the same or near stats about USA, will you label wikipedia as a racist source? You have some serious issues with yourself.

Anonymous

6:45 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Pointing to the fact that one of the differences between US and any Scandinavian or Norther European country is that we are multi-racial and they are homogeneous, does not make one a racist. Are you OK?

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Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

10:11 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Spellbinding to read...beginning to end:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/elizabeth-warrens-law-license-problem/

And the best comment on this article:

"There is a very simple explanation for all of this….her Cambridge office is on what is clearly Cherokee tribal land and does not fall under the jurisdiction of Massachusetts law!"

Your spiritual advisor,
Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Aron Levy

10:11 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I make no apologies for my statements. Thomas was not qualified for his judicial position. It was absolutely affirmative action. And yet He has voted against AA st every opportunity. Remind me, how many opinions has he given in the past ten years?

And regarding racism in Boston, you're a transplant from the Midwest. My family has been here since 1915. I might have a SLIGHTLY better handle on the city than you have.

And if you doubt me, just go and ask any black person of the baby-boomer generation or before. They'll tell you about the extreme suspicion and hostility they experience in the city.

That being said, I don't know to whom you spoke in Lexington: everyone I know, including myself, have a tremendous respect for the Armed Services. I would have joined up myself, were it not for medical issues. As such, I am hoping to work for the DIA at some point.

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Anonymous

10:25 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I think Deval Patrick and Barak Obama are better examples of AA beneficiaries, than Clarence Thomas, speaking of whom, he would not agree 2 men having sex as "progressive" behavior and deserve to be verheiratet.

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Anonymous

10:43 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Just a question. Were your parents or grandparents those civil rights activists who fought hard to bring those black people from the South into Boston, New York, etc.?

Aron Levy

10:12 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

(Cont.) Oh, and I certainly do not speak for all youth. At twenty-five, I'm at the upper end of that spectrum. But I do know that you 'traditionalists' are on the decline, whether you like it or not.

Who are you to prevent the happiness of two loving people, simply because one of your books says only once (!) that it's a no-no? There are in fact more homosexuals relationships in the Bible than prohibitions against it. So that sounds rather like approval from On High, if you ask me.

Oh, and you can shout invective at me all you want from here on out. This thread is boring to me. If you want to believe that you beat me in the argument, please feel free. I can't stop you, much as Katy thinks I want to censor dissent.

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Frampton

9:00 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

What does the Bible say about stealing?

Katy G.

10:33 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Mr. Levy, I'm not from the mid-west. If you look at my heritage from my Grandfather's family, they were here before any Europeans got here. It's true that my Mom is from Canada, my Dad's Mom is from Canada, but I hardly think that this disqualifies me or my family from our observations. If you don't like racism, don't be one yourself. My Dad's best friend when I was growing up was a black guy married to a white woman. They were early boomers, none of them paid any attention to how anyone looked. I've read the Bible, the whole thing, it doesn't condone homosexuality, neither does the book of Mormon or the Koran which I also read. I may be wrong, but I think that most people are willing to live and let live, they don't care what consenting adults do in private, but they also don't want to hear about it, and they don't want to pay for it (abortion and birth control for example). It would be silly to assume that everyone has to share your point of view, but it's entirely reasonable to want to live by your own standards without being forced to accept and think about the intimate choices of other people. One of my grandmother's best friends when I was a kid was a man who everyone accepted as gay, he and my grandmother were friends since college. When my grandfather died Myron asked my grandmother to marry him. He loved her more than any other friend. Who you love and who you're sexually attracted to aren't always the same thing.

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Alice H

8:49 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Here is some sound wisdom from the guy you folks want to elect as our next president:

“When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly,” Romney told the LA Times. “And you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem.”

Air crafts do not open windows because the cabins are pressurized to fly safely at an altitude of tens of thousand feet. Opening a window in an airplane would seriously sicken the passengers and crew.

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DAD

10:00 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

You are right , His lack of knowledge of aircraft conflagration disqualifies him as a candidate for president. Maybe he should become a community organizer and then you might like him.

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Anonymous

10:03 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Alice H. When are you narrow-minded people going to realize that this election is not about likability or personal connection to one guy vs other guy, based on how he talks, how he walks, how he looks? Those kind of things are meant to target stupid audience who don't see a big picture in this election.

Alice H

10:56 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Anonymous - my comment was not about how he looks, it related more to his intellect, which I believe is relevant to being our president. And, there was no need for you to label me as narrow-minded. That is just cheap name calling on your part.

And Dad, well DUH! never mind his lack of aircraft conflagration, the guy did not know that airplane windows don't open for a very good reason. And, even if they did, not sure I would open a window to give a fire more oxygen.

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Anonymous

11:19 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

See, I don't believe it's relevant. Just like Sherlock Holmes had no idea that earth rotates around the sun, because it was irrelevant for his job. Romney's ability of fixing the economy and restore this country stance in the world is what is relevant to me.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

11:58 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Let us discuss the mind of a community organizer, or a senator with little to show for an unfinished term.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Alice H

12:13 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Common sense is relevant, Anonymous.

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Phil

6:12 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Now we find out the fake Indian is a fake lawyer. Is there no end to this woman's lies?

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Earnhardt

10:03 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

She will have to have the Governor answer for her...

fitzroy

11:06 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

You have to admit, this whole "are you really Cherokee?" thing is getting to be a bit low brow...kind of like the whole birther thing. Really, folks....tomahawks...really? There are better issues to hit EW on.

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Earnhardt

11:18 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

You are right.. we should all start hitting her on all of her stories. The law license, the Governor doing her talking,,, it could go on and on...

Earnhardt

11:15 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Mike! woo hoo! i didn't think you were going to take the bait tonight... hey BTW. you really messed up scouting for the sox this season... lolololol Good night!

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Earnhardt

11:26 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Fresh cut grass sure smells nice compared to the smell of paranoia surrounding you... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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fitzroy

11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

EW is a hypocrite...reference to how she got paid big$$$ to nail the common man in asbestos lawsuits...aided and abetted big business in overturning a $140m decision to pay retired steel workers their pensions
EW was accused of plagiarism...pow pow chow and other accusations (ie UT)
EW isn't registered in the mass bar
EW hasn't been elected to office at any level

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Chris Schaffner

7:02 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

"EW hasn't been elected to office at any level" - I thought career politicians were the problem.

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Katy G.

10:22 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

@Chris Schaffner, Obama is a career politician. He has never held a real job. He's gone to elite private schools and lived in the best neighborhoods. EW is as much an opportunist as Obama. Romney has earned a fortune. Given that he's so competent at managing his own money I'd prefer he manage the country's as well. Anything would be better than the horrific economic decline and the destruction of our ability to defend our country.

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Chris Schaffner

1:45 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

OK, I think I understand now.

On Patch, Democratic politicians are either "career politicians" and "hacks" or they are "inexperienced" "community organizers". Republicans on the other hand are either "tireless public servants" or they are "independent minded business leaders".

Earnhardt

8:11 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Where has POTUS been latley? She was his cabinet appointee, he has been strangley silent. Wonder why? could it be he knows deep down she has no qualifications, Add to that he has all he can handle on his plate. Its a losing battle for EW.

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John Veteran

12:15 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Veteran
Remember that Elizabeth Warren was a Republican before it veered to the far right. I doubt that even Goldwater would be comfortable there.

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Iron Mike

12:23 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

I knew Goldwater. He is spinning in his grave at what liberals and commies have done to this country! They've turned Christian charity into government bureaucracies - run to keep stupid and poor voters 'on the plantation'.

fitzroy

9:04 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Chris...I don't know if career politicians are necessarily bad, but there is a point that can be made about public service. To make a comparison, Brown has time as a state legislator and as a National Guardsman...that is laudable, right? Aside from "fighting for the middle class" (dubious at best), can anyone talk to EW's public service record?

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Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

10:13 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

The best that can be said is the public will be 'serviced' by Warren.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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fitzroy

11:30 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

And seriously, that is crude

Earnhardt

10:34 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Well said Katy G. how much money someone has made is not the issue. All politicians and wanna be politicians who want to play on the national level are millionaires, some many times over. Also Obama has set us up for disaster simply by borrowing trillions of dollars from China and then allowing them to manufacture some of our most critical military components! Now it makes you wonder, if i owed you trillions with no hope of paying you back, how great would the quality of the parts you manufacture for my defense be? you are right, we have been set-up for more economic decline and the end of our militaries defense systems

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fitzroy

11:20 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

What military components does china manufacture for the US? Not sure if China is worth the hype as they are about to implode.

Earnhardt

11:30 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Night Vision parts for the navy's submarine hunter helicopters. Chips and microprocessors for the C-130 cargo planes that relay performance issues to the pilots. Night vision scope components for night time bombing.to name a few. Plus military grade steel. there are no steel plants certified for Military Grade production in the US now

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fitzroy

11:47 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Are you sure? I mean there are pretty strict rules for dod procurement...do you think pres Obama himself asked Hu Jintao to build those parts, or was it already hard-coded into into mil procurement law as determined by congress? Besides, if China can produce cheaper steel shouldn't we purchase from them anyways...we believe in capitalism, right? Actually, mil procurement is more about "best value"...either way... Do you think this "strategic pivot" in the pacific is going Impact our supply of military parts from china? Man, I hope not--we would have a heck of a time of deterring the chicoms <sarcasm>

Earnhardt

11:56 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Well it's public record. Who knows what Talks Obama has had and with whom?. They do supply components. Whether that means thousands of parts, or hundreds, I don't know. Cheaper is not always best is it? I mean don't you get what you pay for? My point was, if you owe huge sums of money to someone, (trillions in this case) how long before the quality of parts you supply begins to slip? As I said there are many incidents on public record. Excellent points you bring up though. Definitely leaves much to think about,

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Anonymous

12:03 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

And we already have John Kerry who votes 100% Democrat. So why do we need another senator who will absolutely vote 100% Democrat?

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Iron Mike

12:13 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Actually, Lurch just votes for HIMSELF...for his own financial interests.

Can you IMAGINE this lying 'squaw' making decisions on judges, ambassadors, intelligence and defense bills...

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

7:31 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

She’s not good enough for the country but she’ll do for our state. Warren conceived the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and was on the short list to run it. She was initially Obama’s darling, but he dropped her, and sent her back to Harvard. Massachusetts Democrats adopted the professor for the Senate run, pushing other candidates aside.

Deemed too strident and divisive to pass Congressional muster, Warren is now the standard bearer for state liberals. She joins Joe Kennedy III in offering to lead us to a new version of tomorrow, the Democrat version.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Sister Mary Kate

8:26 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

"Deemed too strident and divisive" by a Senate dominated by GOP Senators who who rather ban women's cancers screenings and mandate the teaching that Jesusrode a dinosaur?---They --like you---Fake Reverend---are hiding their racism, misogyny and general disdain for the poor behind a false cloak of piousness and Christianity---Brown voted for the Blunt amendment, against both women nominees to the Supremem Court, and for the Ryan budget, which would put lots of seniors and kids in the bread lines---This isn't Alabama, but maybe you and Brown should move there---They like your kind of people.

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Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

8:34 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Ever been to Alabama? The state is gaining jobs and influence as Massachusetts languishes. A Massachusetts 'Bride of Christ' would be welcome there.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Katy G.

10:09 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Reverend, I consider you an ally in faith as well as values. Please don't take this fake Christian's statements as representing those of other Catholics. "Sister," if that's what you are, you should be ashamed to support Justices Kagen and Sotomayor who both support abortion and the redefinition of marriage. The Catholic church is explicit in its stance on both issues. Kagen has never held a judicial position before being put forward for a seat on the highest court in the country. She doesn't belong there. She was an academic like EW and Obama.
You must be one of those nuns that the Vatican is trying to censure for your weird leftist agenda. I know real Catholic nuns who wear habits and serve the faithful as well as their faith. You don't care about the poor or you'd realize that the liberal policies of the last 40 years have created more poor people in this country and robbed them of their dignity. If you were a real sister you wouldn't support a liar for public office. The devil is also called 'the great deceiver.' If you support a liar and cheat you should leave the church, you're worshiping at the wrong altar.

Chris Schaffner

9:38 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Iron Mike - "OK, I'm just guessing - but you are TELLING OTHERS HOW TO LEAD THEIR LIVES! Are you not?"

Katy G - "you should be ashamed to support Justices Kagen and Sotomayor who both support abortion and the redefinition of marriage."

Who is telling who how to lead their lives?

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Anonymous

10:36 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

Chris Schaffner. It's very simple. Women should do whatever they want with their bodies, but at their own expense, not at mine or taxpayers. And regarding same-sex marriage, people also can do whatever they want with themselves, but don't expect to be rewarded by society and taxpayers for behaviors not recognized as normal by most people in this world.

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Katy G.

5:36 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Someone who posts as 'Sister' is implying that they are a consecrated member of the Catholic church. The church has its own standards for its members. I agree that what non-Catholics do, for that matter what non-clergy do, is none of my business. I don't want to pay for, or participate in, other people's life style choices. If they are none of my business, then don't make them my business by insisting that I pay for them. On the other hand, I am Catholic and I do have a right to tell someone who claims to be a nun to re-examine their stance if what they are claiming is entirely contrary to church teaching. The Vatican has gone after just such people recently as politicians and religious in this country and Europe have appointed themselves experts on the Catholic faith when they have no idea what they're talking about or they're outright lying.

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

10:39 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

The question has been legitimately posed. How soon will people be able to marry their pets in Massachusetts?

Reverend E. Raleigh Pimperton III

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Iron Mike

12:09 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

And having married your dog, - then divorced it - which 'spouse' gets taken to the Pound?

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Lorem Ipsum

1:00 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

A leap in logic.

When blacks were given the right to vote did people say, "What next? How soon will pets be allowed to vote?"

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Anonymous

2:28 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

A leap in your logic - mixing apples and oranges: race and homosexuality are 2 different things. Race is an attribute humans born with. Homosexuality is an attribute of choice of sick people.

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Katy G.

5:42 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Hey, "news' (Lorem Ipsum) are you comparing people of color to dogs? What a racist! No surprise to me. The majority of black people in this country don't support homosexual marriage, and they don't want to be dragged into the conversation as a tool of manipulation either.

BC2426

1:09 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Elizabeth Warren is a liar...this is the only thing her campaign has proven over the last 6 months and if you vote for her then you are supporting liars.

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Iron Mike

1:19 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

She needs a membership in Liars Anonymous – except she's hardly anonymous anymore. EVERYbody knows she is either a serial liar or a pathological liar...

Those who support and stand by her are called 'enablers'. They're not unlike battered women who live with their abusers – and keep making excuses for them.

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Anonymous

2:17 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

she is also a serial cheater

Chris Schaffner

10:17 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.” - George Washington

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